[Official] General Discussion Thread - August 17, 2021
By - rmma
Prime Frank Shamrock vs Gastelum at 185
New GDT, same cycle
Next week Conor is going to go after Felder right?
lol Bisping and Conor going at it on twitter
> please explain how your PRIDE can crusher would beat Ngannou/Stipe/Jones/DC?
i remember in 7th grade i did a powerpoint on why i thought khabib beat tibau and i just copied ppls reddit comments without watching a second of that fight lol
Usman should cover Woodley's entire album and just drop it on Soundcloud
Mike Perry should do it
DC circlejerk thread just hit the front page
YOU CANT MAKE FUN OF HIM HE DESERVES TO CRY. YOU DONT GET IT FIGHTERS ARE BUILT DIFFERENT. EVERYTIME THEY WALK INTO THAT CAGE THEY CAN DIE EVEN THOUGH THERES A REF AND DOCTORS THAT ARE THEIR TO STOP THE FIGHT.
THEYRE DOGS RUFF RUFF. AND SOMETIMES DOGS CRY.
**"Every time people laughed at me - when I cried because the steaks were out, or I cried when they ran out of rotisserie chicken, or I cried after eating a third bratwurst gave me heartburn - those tears are earned... There's a reason that these people that eat their wings with cool dill dip are professional grill tongs. Because they are marinated. Caesar salad."**
I'll beat yo ass
I think you'd be surprised
Hahahaha (Yeah, gang)
Best welterweight in the world (Best welterweight in the world)
On God (On God)
here bro let me erase that extra "b" for you
I'll beat your ass (Yeah)
I'll beat your ass (Yeah)
I'll beat your ass (Yeah)
I'll beat your ass (Yeah)
I'll beat 'em, on God, though (Yeah)
Talk slick, move quick like a macho (Uh)
We were robbed of a prime Marlon Moraes vs Petr Yan matchup
At least Jared Cannonier is going to fight Kelvin Gastelum to make up for it
Jared’s gonna send Gastelum to WW
Just seen a picture of Faber and it just hit me how fuckable his chin is! anyways hope you all had a good day!
This is scholarly research
GSP isn’t even top 3 goat.
You can’t get knocked out and subbed in your prime and be the goat.
Wasn’t his prime imo with the Hughes fight.
People love him cuz he is a nice guy
Jon Jones is number 1 no matter what anyone says. Closest to Jones was DJ. GSP is great but not the greatest of all time compared with Jon’s Record and Jon’s dominance.
He has an amazing resume but depending how people value drug test failures is going to moving him up and down that list.
My opinion is all the GOATs were on PEDs and passing the test is part of the game and Jon failed that more than all the others in the conversation
Got both losses back, never lost to anyone else, ran through two generations of tough competition, and, most importantly imo, he got out before he got old. If greatness doesn't incorporate a whole career, then I'm not sure what greatness is. And, while they were killers in their primes, Silva's last 9 fights went 1-7-1; Aldo's gone 5-5 since the Conor loss, and BJ Penn dropped 7 straight. All this factors into the GOAT discussion IMO. On the flip side, I think it's possible to leave too early, which is a reason I wouldn't necessarily have Khabib up there either. Probs GSP and Jones.
Alright what about the Hendricks fight. Never even gave Hendricks a rematch.
I never said Khabib was a goat either. He’s around the same level as Usman and Cejudo to me.
Decisionbot Hendricks vs. GSP
I haven't watched the fight in ages so I don't feel prepared to comment. Will find the stats interesting though.
Edit: Damn, more one sided than I thought.
[**GEORGES ST-PIERRE defeats JOHNY HENDRICKS** (*split decision*)](http://mmadecisions.com/decision/4707/fight)
^(UFC 167: St-Pierre vs. Hendricks — November 16, 2013)
*^(Judges, in order: Sal D'Amato, Glenn Trowbridge, Tony Weeks.)*
*^(Summoned by mypatronusismothman.)*
**MEDIA MEMBER SCORES**
- **16/16** people scored it **47-48 Hendricks**.
Avg. media score: **47-48 Hendricks**. Quick maths.
Who’s your top 3?
Jon, gsp, Silva
Jon Jones/Anderson Silva
Fedor as your goat?! 😂😂😂
Name his 5 best wins
You must be a Jones fan. He's in my top 3 fo sho
How does me saying GSP getting knocked out and subbed in his prime mean I’m a Jones fan? And why is that an argument for GSP?
Damn he triggers yall so much.
Well you have bones in your name to start, so that's immediately sus
It’s a joke about O’Malley’s fragile legs, has nothing to do with Jon
I wish the UFC would get into the habit of having champ fights at weight classes idiots don't care about as FN headliners. Valentina/Murphy would be a dope headliner. Yan/Sterling too. It was cool when the MFW champ fight was a FN headliner. Also pretty much all women's fights. By and large, champ fights are the highest level fights we'll get, and it'd be nice to spread the love a bit.
Do's Anjos Vs Alvarez was a fight night. Imagine a light weight title fight being free these days
Being Jose Aldo and fighting an Interim Champion is the worst base for MMA :(
Does anyone like that DC and RC show its like RC got a wish from make a wish foundation to work on ESPN
Dude is an NFL analyst. I think he got a maka a wish to talk about mma and get paid for it.
>!Feel like Gore is gonna run through Battle. They've both looked pretty sharp on the feet but Battle doesn't seem to have nearly as much pop. I expect they'll land in similar amounts but Gore's strikes are gonna do way more damage and eventually finish him!<
>!Hiestand-Turcios should be a legit war, and I think Turcios is gonna just out-grit his way to victory like he did in his two TUF fights!<
Your weekly reminder that Bruce Buffer has ab implants
Just search it up, there’s pics online
JAY ELLIS IS THE MMA GOAT
Part of me misses the no-crowds, but it is awesome hearing the buildup to cheers every now and then.
Otherwise, the fucking woo-ing and booing shit... just give me the apex. Hearing the coaches and the strikes is legit.
Jan is OP, all his moves are plus on block
Most fighting games apply, Tekken and Street Fighter definitely
Just an Apex thing. All the other cards have been in a standard-sized octagon
It’s so dumb they make them fight in a different sized cage in the Apex.
Just make them all the same size. It’s just idiotic to me that it’s not standardized.
I think it’s weird because some fights play out differently depending on the octagon too.
There’s a guy at my gym that drinks Mountain Dew during kickboxing class instead of water
Drinking till he won’t need a cup anymore
I call him Mountain Dude
And he Baja blasts my ass everytime we spar
Tuesday Evening... let's re-watch Diaz Lawler 1 for the millionth time
So with the conclusion of TUF tonight I think its fair to reflect on the finale and the season as a whole for a bit (for like the 5 people that actually care). Safe to say that the fights are really what carried the show the whole time, Volk and Ortega (particularly Volk and co) seemed like great coaches but, as expected, not exactly must watch TV. Was interesting to see Ortega bring his kids on for the finale, didn't even know he had kids tbh. All in all, I'm looking forward to the finale fights and hope that in the future Dana with his juiced up tomato head can make this show more entertaining.
> hope that in the future Dana with his juiced up tomato head can make this show more entertaining.
Don't worry, he's blasting his lil' cherry tomatoes right now to pictures and resumes of new, desperate, out of work fighters who have their entire families living out of milk crates in the Arby's parking lot for the past two years and have one chance left. He's firmly gripping his nutsack and tugging to the thought of every fighter having no choice but to sign whatever contract he puts in front of their faces.
His heads are probably at a steady beet red right now.
Jesus. Are you okay?
The tall coach with glasses from Ortega team was miserable to listen to
Is that Ortega's head coach? If so it makes me want to bet Volk. The way the season went, how Ortega started hot and Volks guys closed out strong, it makes me think Volk has a way better training system. He turned his guys in to machines over the several weeks he had with them. Ortega's only guy that made it to the end was the guy with crazy power who already came in in great shape.
"Punch his shin! Punch his shin!" P4P best back defense for sure.
Lmao when I seen that I was like no way thats a tactic. I'm sure it don't feel good but I'm not sure its very effective. Who knows I'm just a dirty casual.
Aww shit the clocks toppers have a fight?!
Day 43 of u/maccabihelwani aka u/aliabdelazizfan ducking me.
I've told you we can do it at rough and rowdy, they take email applications bubba, we can do it any way you want it, big gloves small gloves, no gloves, no hands, whatever you want brother
Nah it needs to be mma
I don’t even think he trains
Don't trip son, I think I'm ranked like #1 white belt in the world, held this white belt longer than anyone else probably has, 6 year and counting
It’s fair then. I had a white belt in karate when I was 10 but left the class because they wouldn’t let me use weapons
They wouldn't let me use my fists because they are legally considered deadly weapons and my karate instructor didn't want to be accessory to murder.
Good luck bubba, that karate shit don't work on me im street certified
Rough and rowdy doesn’t want to watch a murder
I understand, but you can get like 2 more bums to be on your team and we can do a 3v1 like they sometimes do
Still mad at how people were calling Gane boring during him vs lewis even tho lewis threw like 10 punches
I don't get it, why doesn't he just let Lewis punch him?
Who’s a fighter that looks terrible fighting but actually wins a lot
Marcin Tybura. The two fights I've seen him in (Greg Hardy and Walt Harris) he's gotten rocked and looked like he was about to be finished then came back and won with wrestling and gnp.
Edit: stupid spell check
How has no one mentioned Elias
shocked that nobody has said Kennedy Nzechukwu, maybe because nobody wanted to look up how to spell his name before posting
I was trying to think of his name, dude has an amazing story too. I hope he continues winning. His poor mom :(
Dricus Du Plessis always looks like he's on the verge of giving up and like his opponent could finish him at any moment before he just murders them
Get those Guida underdog tickets in now
Tony ferguson. I love the guy, but his striking is just so fuckin weird.
He's just getting old :(
Hes getting old now, but even when he was in his prime his technique and mechanics were still really weird haha
The king of "everything bad with HW MMA, except it usually works for him".
God gives his toughest battles to his strongest soldiers. Jon bones p4p goat
Yeah Jesus is siked you just sandblasted that dudes chin off
And I thought Volk might have been able to get a clean finale sweep. Gore is a problem.
Urbina didn’t have a chin at all
Noooooo, read this while watching the episode,, fook
Goddamn that hook
Shut him off. With that check hook
Couldn't have a better MW finale name. Battle vs Gore.
What’s your unpopular opinion?
I dont like Dustin.
Me neither. He’s extremely unlikable and boring to me.
I dont know if he is unlikable. Its just the circle jerk on this sub made me not like him. Maybe I'm a POS though. I hope chuck olives submits him.
He’s like Chandler to me. Just cares way too much about what people think and how they want him to act. Comes off as fake.
I like the walking meme chandler. God Bless, see you at the top.
I think fighters like Gane, Volk and Edwards who are “boring” are way better to watch than sloppy bangers who get finishes.
I agree with Gane and Volk. Leon idk man. He bores me to death.
Khabib is overrated with a heavily padded record and 5 good wins. Not saying he isn’t the best lw but that he isn’t top 5 in the goat discussion.
> good wins
Gaethje, Poirier, McGregor, Barboza, RDA? Yeah, I mentioned above that he left far too early to reach GOATdom for me.
I don’t think it’s very unpopular outside of casuals/Khabib stans put him up there. I’d put him with Cejudo and Usman atm.
I’d put him below usman
Yeah I have it Usman/Khabib/Cejudo
I don’t think Costa is hot
I think Costa is a drunk.
Tre'shaun must have loaded fucking gloves. Jesus he didn't hit that hard in his last fight.
That Jesus fist
Hope this fight is as good as it should be. Tomato looked excited
Wish Anderson would rub me like that
My lord his son is just a carbon copy of him
Jon gave me a pep talk just the other day
Can this sub contain the levels of homoeroticism that would occur if Rockhold wins against Strickland and gets matched up with Costa?
Keep going I’m close
Just got knocked out as Darren Elkins ufc 4 sucks
It’s a damn shame that TUF was so terrible this season. The one thing UFC can’t control is the fights and they’ve been excellent. The choice of coaches, the storytelling and even the coaches challenge have been stale.
Have the fights been good? I stopped tuning in after, like, the third or fourth episode. Almost all decisions, pretty amateurish, not particularly exciting, etc. I guess it picked up. Just watched tonight's KO though.
they should add landmines inside the octagon next season
It’s such a different thing now. All the dudes in the house are super respectful to each other and no one is drinking and ripping down doors. Not that I’d want to watch that either, but the show feels like 35 minutes of filler and then the fight. I think that there’s just so much on the line for these guys, they’re all basically broke and trying to get into the UFC and doing everything they can to not fuck it up. Volk and Ortega are good when talking about fighting but everything else is meh.
They should just take the fights from the end of each episode and play them all back to back without the drama, just like a short interview with each fighter before their bout
Oh wait that's a fight card
So what’s the actual deal with paddy? Is he out?
He’s in. Was an issue but cleared up now.
In your mom
Awesome hyped to see paddy the baddy
See bisping, should have kept your mouth shut about Conor, now them [killers](https://twitter.com/dillondanis/status/1427740528758726659?s=19) after you
Current bisping would fold the shit out of dildo dingus
Lol, man can barely walk and you want the greatest bjj player in the past 10 years to rip his legs off?
I didn’t think bjj players were allowed to rip off limbs. Bisping is a real fighter
>Bisping is a real fighter
As is Danis, undefeated, can't say that about old chinny Mike
Danis lost to khabib
Should watch the clip, khabib jumps down, gets hit by Danis with several uppercuts, khabib flees and king Ali abdelaziz comes to his rescue and hits Danis from behind
Khabib rocked danis so hard he trembles at the thought of even getting into another fight which is why he stays on social media now
Weird, who's the one that's retired? Only one guy went running
cant dive for an imanari if your unconscious. D'anus striking is dogshit
You don't know what you are talking about, Mike got starched by 5'8 Kelvin gastelum in like 1 minute, Danis would do bad things to old 45 year old 1 eye Mike
Do you wanna suck danis meat or something you defending him too much
Don't be inappropriate
Everytime you post i read it in ariels voice. Kind of funny
Tresean has the most unthusiastic "whoooooo" of all time lol
Man this season of TUF is so forgettable Auto Mod has forgot to post a thread 2 weeks in a row.
Our autoscheduling system isn't picking up TUF as of late, we're trying to make an adjustment. Sorry.
I posted a thread for it and there's not even anyone around to allow it.
Perry be looking like me these days https://twitter.com/hektic_one/status/1427730722232602628?s=19
Can see those man tits through the shirt my goodness Mike get your shit together you fat fuck
Man, he used to look so much better. He was never an elite or even top 10 level fighter but the dude used to come in much better shape and his physicality made him a legit fringe top 15-20 WW.
Who deserves a title shot more? Jon Jones or Carla Esparza?
Jones: arguably the GOAT, never lost via decision or KO
Esparza: 5 fight win streak (4 over currently ranked opponents), already has a win over Rose
Jon Jones. I dislike Jones more than most but given all the history, the Champ from a division who has never lost and defended his belt a bunch of times moves UP, should get a damn title shot.
That being said, I don't think the UFC want him to get murdered by Ngannou. They want Gane to beat Ngannou so when Francis leaves the promotion after they can do Jones vs Gane.
Both on steroids
yoel romero or holly holm, ofc.
Did Tuf suck this season?
I thought the fights were top notch! The fighters’ mentality is so much different than it used to be in that they truly see this as a real career opportunity. They all eat clean, don’t drink alcohol, are respectful, and get sleep. I wish they would just show two fights per episode and cut out some of the filler, but we would pretty much be left with DWCS 🤷🏼♂️
I'd say it was average. A few good characters. Coaches are meh.
I didnt miss an episode so far and enjoyed it, first season of tuf i actually watched so i cant compare to previous seasons.
I’m pretty sure they reran the same footage about Volk cooking breakfast 2 episodes in a row. I turned on this weeks and thought I was watching a repeat.
Yes, I watched only for my teammate and once he got eliminated I was done
Fights were good, everything else was forgettable.
You wouldn't like it, trust me.
Gane looks scary but all he does is run and kick the legs. He's a point fighter. Ngannou sends him to the moon.
Being a point fighter doesn't mean he's bad. Dom Cruz was the best bantam for years and he could not punch a hole through paper.
That being said Ngannou in 1.
Point fighter but only like three of his wins are by decisions?
They don’t call him ciryl “GME” Gane for nothing
Thank you. I need these reminders about GME because I have a few thousand tied up with it and no exit plan.
I'll now forget about it and continue not having an exit plan but it's nice to be reminded.
I feel like you should probably sell but that’s my idiotic advice
Thanks man, that sounds like a smart move so I'm probably going to hold.
Imagine johny hendricks pulling you over