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[Official] General Discussion Thread - August 17, 2021

[Official] General Discussion Thread - August 17, 2021

  • By - rmma

Vaultyvlad

Prime Frank Shamrock vs Gastelum at 185


Dirkman_Express

New GDT, same cycle


Dirkman_Express

Next week Conor is going to go after Felder right?


weheardyou

lol Bisping and Conor going at it on twitter


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RepulsiveCategory888

> please explain how your PRIDE can crusher would beat Ngannou/Stipe/Jones/DC? No chance.


YourLocalZebraa

i remember in 7th grade i did a powerpoint on why i thought khabib beat tibau and i just copied ppls reddit comments without watching a second of that fight lol


shanest0ke

Usman should cover Woodley's entire album and just drop it on Soundcloud


w2fally

Mike Perry should do it


ailhadkcalb

DC circlejerk thread just hit the front page


Sugabones

YOU CANT MAKE FUN OF HIM HE DESERVES TO CRY. YOU DONT GET IT FIGHTERS ARE BUILT DIFFERENT. EVERYTIME THEY WALK INTO THAT CAGE THEY CAN DIE EVEN THOUGH THERES A REF AND DOCTORS THAT ARE THEIR TO STOP THE FIGHT. THEYRE DOGS RUFF RUFF. AND SOMETIMES DOGS CRY.


RepulsiveCategory888

**"Every time people laughed at me - when I cried because the steaks were out, or I cried when they ran out of rotisserie chicken, or I cried after eating a third bratwurst gave me heartburn - those tears are earned... There's a reason that these people that eat their wings with cool dill dip are professional grill tongs. Because they are marinated. Caesar salad."**


shanest0ke

I'll beat yo ass


gangaaaags

I think you'd be surprised


shanest0ke

Uh (Uh) Hahahaha (Yeah, gang) Best welterweight in the world (Best welterweight in the world) On God (On God)


gangaaaags

Skurr skurr


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here bro let me erase that extra "b" for you


shanest0ke

I'll beat your ass (Yeah) I'll beat your ass (Yeah) I'll beat your ass (Yeah) I'll beat your ass (Yeah) I'll beat 'em, on God, though (Yeah) Talk slick, move quick like a macho (Uh)


DarkeeseLatifa

We were robbed of a prime Marlon Moraes vs Petr Yan matchup


shanest0ke

At least Jared Cannonier is going to fight Kelvin Gastelum to make up for it


DarkeeseLatifa

Jared’s gonna send Gastelum to WW


tony220jdm

Just seen a picture of Faber and it just hit me how fuckable his chin is! anyways hope you all had a good day!


gangaaaags

Bluh


shanest0ke

This is scholarly research


Sugabones

GSP isn’t even top 3 goat. You can’t get knocked out and subbed in your prime and be the goat.


theusmaniandevil

Wasn’t his prime imo with the Hughes fight.


gangaaaags

People love him cuz he is a nice guy


DarkeeseLatifa

Jon Jones is number 1 no matter what anyone says. Closest to Jones was DJ. GSP is great but not the greatest of all time compared with Jon’s Record and Jon’s dominance.


LovrenIsTheGOAT

DJ lol


w2fally

He has an amazing resume but depending how people value drug test failures is going to moving him up and down that list. My opinion is all the GOATs were on PEDs and passing the test is part of the game and Jon failed that more than all the others in the conversation


mypatronusismothman

Got both losses back, never lost to anyone else, ran through two generations of tough competition, and, most importantly imo, he got out before he got old. If greatness doesn't incorporate a whole career, then I'm not sure what greatness is. And, while they were killers in their primes, Silva's last 9 fights went 1-7-1; Aldo's gone 5-5 since the Conor loss, and BJ Penn dropped 7 straight. All this factors into the GOAT discussion IMO. On the flip side, I think it's possible to leave too early, which is a reason I wouldn't necessarily have Khabib up there either. Probs GSP and Jones.


Sugabones

Alright what about the Hendricks fight. Never even gave Hendricks a rematch. I never said Khabib was a goat either. He’s around the same level as Usman and Cejudo to me.


mypatronusismothman

Decisionbot Hendricks vs. GSP I haven't watched the fight in ages so I don't feel prepared to comment. Will find the stats interesting though. Edit: Damn, more one sided than I thought.


DecisionBot

[**GEORGES ST-PIERRE defeats JOHNY HENDRICKS** (*split decision*)](http://mmadecisions.com/decision/4707/fight) ^(UFC 167: St-Pierre vs. Hendricks — November 16, 2013) ROUND|St-Pierre|Hendricks||St-Pierre|Hendricks||St-Pierre|Hendricks :-:|:-:|:-:|:-:|:-:|:-:|:-:|:-:|:-:|:-: 1|10|9||9|10||10|9 2|9|10||9|10||9|10 3|10|9||10|9||10|9 4|9|10||9|10||9|10 5|10|9||10|9||10|9 **TOTAL**|**48**|**47**||**47**|**48**||**48**|**47** *^(Judges, in order: Sal D'Amato, Glenn Trowbridge, Tony Weeks.)* *^(Summoned by mypatronusismothman.)* **MEDIA MEMBER SCORES** - **16/16** people scored it **47-48 Hendricks**. Avg. media score: **47-48 Hendricks**. Quick maths.


Sugabones

16/16 mf


Neonplantz

Who’s your top 3?


ElitemanBox

Jon, gsp, Silva


Sugabones

Fedor DJ Jon Jones/Anderson Silva


MaccabiHelwani

Fedor as your goat?! 😂😂😂 Name his 5 best wins


K-mosake

You must be a Jones fan. He's in my top 3 fo sho


Sugabones

How does me saying GSP getting knocked out and subbed in his prime mean I’m a Jones fan? And why is that an argument for GSP? Damn he triggers yall so much.


K-mosake

Well you have bones in your name to start, so that's immediately sus


Sugabones

It’s a joke about O’Malley’s fragile legs, has nothing to do with Jon


mypatronusismothman

I wish the UFC would get into the habit of having champ fights at weight classes idiots don't care about as FN headliners. Valentina/Murphy would be a dope headliner. Yan/Sterling too. It was cool when the MFW champ fight was a FN headliner. Also pretty much all women's fights. By and large, champ fights are the highest level fights we'll get, and it'd be nice to spread the love a bit.


Duke_Cockhold

Do's Anjos Vs Alvarez was a fight night. Imagine a light weight title fight being free these days


Safe_Exchange_6571

Being Jose Aldo and fighting an Interim Champion is the worst base for MMA :(


tony220jdm

Does anyone like that DC and RC show its like RC got a wish from make a wish foundation to work on ESPN


heemhah

Dude is an NFL analyst. I think he got a maka a wish to talk about mma and get paid for it.


khalbrucie

TUF Spoiler >!Feel like Gore is gonna run through Battle. They've both looked pretty sharp on the feet but Battle doesn't seem to have nearly as much pop. I expect they'll land in similar amounts but Gore's strikes are gonna do way more damage and eventually finish him!< >!Hiestand-Turcios should be a legit war, and I think Turcios is gonna just out-grit his way to victory like he did in his two TUF fights!<


Sugabones

Your weekly reminder that Bruce Buffer has ab implants


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Sugabones

Just search it up, there’s pics online


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JAY ELLIS IS THE MMA GOAT


RepulsiveCategory888

Part of me misses the no-crowds, but it is awesome hearing the buildup to cheers every now and then. Otherwise, the fucking woo-ing and booing shit... just give me the apex. Hearing the coaches and the strikes is legit.


GenTelGuy

Jan is OP, all his moves are plus on block


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Tekken reference?


GenTelGuy

Most fighting games apply, Tekken and Street Fighter definitely


zainery

huh


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khalbrucie

Just an Apex thing. All the other cards have been in a standard-sized octagon


Sugabones

It’s so dumb they make them fight in a different sized cage in the Apex. Just make them all the same size. It’s just idiotic to me that it’s not standardized.


captaincumsock69

I think it’s weird because some fights play out differently depending on the octagon too.


Sugabones

There’s a guy at my gym that drinks Mountain Dew during kickboxing class instead of water


cosmic-schmuck

Drinking till he won’t need a cup anymore


Sugabones

I call him Mountain Dude


Sugabones

And he Baja blasts my ass everytime we spar


BeautifulBaconBits

Tuesday Evening... let's re-watch Diaz Lawler 1 for the millionth time


GlobalKimura

So with the conclusion of TUF tonight I think its fair to reflect on the finale and the season as a whole for a bit (for like the 5 people that actually care). Safe to say that the fights are really what carried the show the whole time, Volk and Ortega (particularly Volk and co) seemed like great coaches but, as expected, not exactly must watch TV. Was interesting to see Ortega bring his kids on for the finale, didn't even know he had kids tbh. All in all, I'm looking forward to the finale fights and hope that in the future Dana with his juiced up tomato head can make this show more entertaining.


RepulsiveCategory888

> hope that in the future Dana with his juiced up tomato head can make this show more entertaining. Don't worry, he's blasting his lil' cherry tomatoes right now to pictures and resumes of new, desperate, out of work fighters who have their entire families living out of milk crates in the Arby's parking lot for the past two years and have one chance left. He's firmly gripping his nutsack and tugging to the thought of every fighter having no choice but to sign whatever contract he puts in front of their faces. His heads are probably at a steady beet red right now.


Mkachy

Jesus. Are you okay?


MMAdfs

The tall coach with glasses from Ortega team was miserable to listen to


vannucker

Is that Ortega's head coach? If so it makes me want to bet Volk. The way the season went, how Ortega started hot and Volks guys closed out strong, it makes me think Volk has a way better training system. He turned his guys in to machines over the several weeks he had with them. Ortega's only guy that made it to the end was the guy with crazy power who already came in in great shape.


GlobalKimura

"Punch his shin! Punch his shin!" P4P best back defense for sure.


heemhah

Lmao when I seen that I was like no way thats a tactic. I'm sure it don't feel good but I'm not sure its very effective. Who knows I'm just a dirty casual.


green49285

Aww shit the clocks toppers have a fight?!


captaincumsock69

Day 43 of u/maccabihelwani aka u/aliabdelazizfan ducking me.


MaccabiHelwani

I've told you we can do it at rough and rowdy, they take email applications bubba, we can do it any way you want it, big gloves small gloves, no gloves, no hands, whatever you want brother


Sugabones

Nah it needs to be mma


captaincumsock69

I don’t even think he trains


MaccabiHelwani

Don't trip son, I think I'm ranked like #1 white belt in the world, held this white belt longer than anyone else probably has, 6 year and counting


captaincumsock69

It’s fair then. I had a white belt in karate when I was 10 but left the class because they wouldn’t let me use weapons


vannucker

They wouldn't let me use my fists because they are legally considered deadly weapons and my karate instructor didn't want to be accessory to murder.


MaccabiHelwani

Good luck bubba, that karate shit don't work on me im street certified


captaincumsock69

Rough and rowdy doesn’t want to watch a murder


MaccabiHelwani

I understand, but you can get like 2 more bums to be on your team and we can do a 3v1 like they sometimes do


strion_

Still mad at how people were calling Gane boring during him vs lewis even tho lewis threw like 10 punches


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I don't get it, why doesn't he just let Lewis punch him?


Sugabones

Who’s a fighter that looks terrible fighting but actually wins a lot


heemhah

Marcin Tybura. The two fights I've seen him in (Greg Hardy and Walt Harris) he's gotten rocked and looked like he was about to be finished then came back and won with wrestling and gnp. Edit: stupid spell check


EntropicFire

How has no one mentioned Elias


Bphore

shocked that nobody has said Kennedy Nzechukwu, maybe because nobody wanted to look up how to spell his name before posting


Sugabones

I was trying to think of his name, dude has an amazing story too. I hope he continues winning. His poor mom :(


FrenchTrouDuc

Dricus Du Plessis always looks like he's on the verge of giving up and like his opponent could finish him at any moment before he just murders them


MMAdfs

Mark Madsen Get those Guida underdog tickets in now


McYeety666

Derek Brunson


Pussboy

Tony ferguson. I love the guy, but his striking is just so fuckin weird.


RepulsiveCategory888

He's just getting old :(


Pussboy

Hes getting old now, but even when he was in his prime his technique and mechanics were still really weird haha


RepulsiveCategory888

Very true.


captaincumsock69

Derrick Lewis


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The king of "everything bad with HW MMA, except it usually works for him".


captaincumsock69

God gives his toughest battles to his strongest soldiers. Jon bones p4p goat


AllTheCastlesBurned

Yeah Jesus is siked you just sandblasted that dudes chin off


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And I thought Volk might have been able to get a clean finale sweep. Gore is a problem.


LiftingGeek28

Urbina didn’t have a chin at all


ZerosX2

Noooooo, read this while watching the episode,, fook


LiftingGeek28

Sorry, bro!


green49285

Goddamn that hook


m0n3yman

Shut him off. With that check hook


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Couldn't have a better MW finale name. Battle vs Gore.


Sugabones

What’s your unpopular opinion?


heemhah

I dont like Dustin.


Sugabones

Me neither. He’s extremely unlikable and boring to me.


heemhah

I dont know if he is unlikable. Its just the circle jerk on this sub made me not like him. Maybe I'm a POS though. I hope chuck olives submits him.


Sugabones

He’s like Chandler to me. Just cares way too much about what people think and how they want him to act. Comes off as fake.


heemhah

I like the walking meme chandler. God Bless, see you at the top.


jakeval17

I think fighters like Gane, Volk and Edwards who are “boring” are way better to watch than sloppy bangers who get finishes.


Sugabones

I agree with Gane and Volk. Leon idk man. He bores me to death.


captaincumsock69

Khabib is overrated with a heavily padded record and 5 good wins. Not saying he isn’t the best lw but that he isn’t top 5 in the goat discussion.


mypatronusismothman

> good wins Gaethje, Poirier, McGregor, Barboza, RDA? Yeah, I mentioned above that he left far too early to reach GOATdom for me.


Sugabones

I don’t think it’s very unpopular outside of casuals/Khabib stans put him up there. I’d put him with Cejudo and Usman atm.


captaincumsock69

I’d put him below usman


Sugabones

Yeah I have it Usman/Khabib/Cejudo


Sugabones

I don’t think Costa is hot


heemhah

I think Costa is a drunk.


green49285

Tre'shaun must have loaded fucking gloves. Jesus he didn't hit that hard in his last fight.


tstone8

That Jesus fist


m0n3yman

1-0 gore


tstone8

Hope this fight is as good as it should be. Tomato looked excited


MaccabiHelwani

https://twitter.com/fufujan1/status/1427617545138413572?s=19 Wish Anderson would rub me like that


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My lord his son is just a carbon copy of him


captaincumsock69

Jon gave me a pep talk just the other day


Sugabones

*ped


Throwaway-242424

Can this sub contain the levels of homoeroticism that would occur if Rockhold wins against Strickland and gets matched up with Costa?


captaincumsock69

Keep going I’m close


ghostygeeser

Just got knocked out as Darren Elkins ufc 4 sucks


JasAFC

It’s a damn shame that TUF was so terrible this season. The one thing UFC can’t control is the fights and they’ve been excellent. The choice of coaches, the storytelling and even the coaches challenge have been stale.


mypatronusismothman

Have the fights been good? I stopped tuning in after, like, the third or fourth episode. Almost all decisions, pretty amateurish, not particularly exciting, etc. I guess it picked up. Just watched tonight's KO though.


PechayMan

they should add landmines inside the octagon next season


Super-Super-Shredder

It’s such a different thing now. All the dudes in the house are super respectful to each other and no one is drinking and ripping down doors. Not that I’d want to watch that either, but the show feels like 35 minutes of filler and then the fight. I think that there’s just so much on the line for these guys, they’re all basically broke and trying to get into the UFC and doing everything they can to not fuck it up. Volk and Ortega are good when talking about fighting but everything else is meh.


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EntropicFire

They should just take the fights from the end of each episode and play them all back to back without the drama, just like a short interview with each fighter before their bout Oh wait that's a fight card


young_spiderman710

So what’s the actual deal with paddy? Is he out?


JasAFC

He’s in. Was an issue but cleared up now.


Sugabones

In your mom


young_spiderman710

Awesome hyped to see paddy the baddy


MaccabiHelwani

See bisping, should have kept your mouth shut about Conor, now them [killers](https://twitter.com/dillondanis/status/1427740528758726659?s=19) after you


ZerosX2

Current bisping would fold the shit out of dildo dingus


MaccabiHelwani

Lol, man can barely walk and you want the greatest bjj player in the past 10 years to rip his legs off?


captaincumsock69

I didn’t think bjj players were allowed to rip off limbs. Bisping is a real fighter


MaccabiHelwani

>Bisping is a real fighter As is Danis, undefeated, can't say that about old chinny Mike


captaincumsock69

Danis lost to khabib


MaccabiHelwani

Should watch the clip, khabib jumps down, gets hit by Danis with several uppercuts, khabib flees and king Ali abdelaziz comes to his rescue and hits Danis from behind


captaincumsock69

Khabib rocked danis so hard he trembles at the thought of even getting into another fight which is why he stays on social media now


MaccabiHelwani

Weird, who's the one that's retired? Only one guy went running


ZerosX2

cant dive for an imanari if your unconscious. D'anus striking is dogshit


MaccabiHelwani

You don't know what you are talking about, Mike got starched by 5'8 Kelvin gastelum in like 1 minute, Danis would do bad things to old 45 year old 1 eye Mike


ZerosX2

Do you wanna suck danis meat or something you defending him too much


MaccabiHelwani

Don't be inappropriate


heemhah

Everytime you post i read it in ariels voice. Kind of funny


ZerosX2

Loooool


green49285

Tresean has the most unthusiastic "whoooooo" of all time lol


m0n3yman

Man this season of TUF is so forgettable Auto Mod has forgot to post a thread 2 weeks in a row.


BasicallyClean

Our autoscheduling system isn't picking up TUF as of late, we're trying to make an adjustment. Sorry.


I_am_darkness

I posted a thread for it and there's not even anyone around to allow it.


MaccabiHelwani

Perry be looking like me these days https://twitter.com/hektic_one/status/1427730722232602628?s=19 Can see those man tits through the shirt my goodness Mike get your shit together you fat fuck


Titterinmyshitter

Man, he used to look so much better. He was never an elite or even top 10 level fighter but the dude used to come in much better shape and his physicality made him a legit fringe top 15-20 WW.


hedonistolid

Who deserves a title shot more? Jon Jones or Carla Esparza? Jones: arguably the GOAT, never lost via decision or KO Esparza: 5 fight win streak (4 over currently ranked opponents), already has a win over Rose


I_am_darkness

Jon Jones. I dislike Jones more than most but given all the history, the Champ from a division who has never lost and defended his belt a bunch of times moves UP, should get a damn title shot. That being said, I don't think the UFC want him to get murdered by Ngannou. They want Gane to beat Ngannou so when Francis leaves the promotion after they can do Jones vs Gane.


CheatrYan

Both on steroids


Dirkman_Express

Leon Edwards


poopposting_account

yoel romero or holly holm, ofc.


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Did Tuf suck this season?


Chrissomms23

I thought the fights were top notch! The fighters’ mentality is so much different than it used to be in that they truly see this as a real career opportunity. They all eat clean, don’t drink alcohol, are respectful, and get sleep. I wish they would just show two fights per episode and cut out some of the filler, but we would pretty much be left with DWCS 🤷🏼‍♂️


I_am_darkness

I'd say it was average. A few good characters. Coaches are meh.


ZerosX2

I didnt miss an episode so far and enjoyed it, first season of tuf i actually watched so i cant compare to previous seasons.


LiftingGeek28

I’m pretty sure they reran the same footage about Volk cooking breakfast 2 episodes in a row. I turned on this weeks and thought I was watching a repeat.


MaccabiHelwani

Yes, I watched only for my teammate and once he got eliminated I was done


hippotatolazer

Fights were good, everything else was forgettable.


FiveTwoFabia

You wouldn't like it, trust me.


CheatrYan

Gane looks scary but all he does is run and kick the legs. He's a point fighter. Ngannou sends him to the moon.


elviejolin

Being a point fighter doesn't mean he's bad. Dom Cruz was the best bantam for years and he could not punch a hole through paper. That being said Ngannou in 1.


MiaFT430

Point fighter but only like three of his wins are by decisions?


captaincumsock69

They don’t call him ciryl “GME” Gane for nothing


creatorsellor

Thank you. I need these reminders about GME because I have a few thousand tied up with it and no exit plan. I'll now forget about it and continue not having an exit plan but it's nice to be reminded.


captaincumsock69

I feel like you should probably sell but that’s my idiotic advice


creatorsellor

Thanks man, that sounds like a smart move so I'm probably going to hold.


captaincumsock69

Beautiful champ


CheatrYan

Imagine johny hendricks pulling you over