Marlon Vera reveals Dominick Cruz turned down a fight against him, but he was happy with Frankie Edgar instead
By - SSHeretic
Dom is definitely not trying to fight anyone ranked below him.
Ended up being a much tougher fight than anticipated.
Casey Kenny’s primary background is Judo and Wrestling. Only 1 of his 16 wins is due to strikes.
Yup, that fight was primarily standing, Dom got a couple takedowns.
but you are right about that
I can’t believe you admitted you were wrong, pathetic
The reason that it was a tough fight was because Cruz isn’t that good anymore, he didn’t fight like his prime self at least. Looked slower and gassed earlier and Kenny was tagging him with leg kicks too if I remember
He wasn't in the rankings when he fought Kenney
Dom wants the easiest fight that gets him an undeserved title shot, his last fight was Casey Kenny ffs.
Dom has a history of cherry picking fights, he doesn't get half enough criticism on here for it. Mizugaki, Faber, Cody, DJ ( the size difference), in his UFC run the only tough fights he's taken have been TJ and Cejudo and he only fought them cause they were champs, would have dodged them too had they not had the belts. He proved that when he dodged TJ after scraping by him in a split decision and chose to fight old man Faber and unproven #6 ranked Cody instead of giving the rematch everyone wanted to see, Cody embarrassing him was extremely cathartic, fuck Dom.
I was about to go off and defend Dom then I remembered Cody wasn't even seen as an elite challenge to Dom at the time. Most people thought Dom was going to tool him because Codys best win were Thomas Almeida and Mizugaki. This was when TJ beat Assuncao, Who also should of had a title shot if not TJ.
I remember while Dom was champ and TJ was fighting contenders, TJ said something like "I'm the real champion. I'm doing all the fights that should be title defenses while Dom is taking money fights."
It was honestly pretty true.
TJ fought Assunçao and Lineker who was looking like a beast at the time while Dom waltzed around with a belt he barely won and dodged all legit contenders. We should have got the rematch immediately or at least he should have faced Assunçao, Rivera or someone on that level and instead he took the easy options.
Don't get me wrong Dom had a great run in WEC but imo after he joined UFC he ruined his legacy, yeah he had to deal with a lot of injuries but I lost a lot of respect for him with how his title reign went. He rarely gets criticism on here and I don't know why when you consider all of that and the fact he's a dick.
>while Dom waltzed around with a belt he barely won
You mean a belt he never lost?
Mizugaki at the time was a good win, Faber is an ATG fighter at those lower classes, DJ fought at 135 and still does. The size difference argument is dumb. Beat TJ after not fighting for like 2 years. This comment just sounds ridiculous and I’m not even a big Dom fan. Dom is 135 GOAT for a reason.
Ah would you stop, next you'll be telling me Bisping had a great title reign lol
> , DJ fought at 135 and still does. The size difference argument is dumb.
Dumb? lol Sorry but how can you have watched the DJ fight and not admit how much size made a difference in that fight, makes me wonder if you've actually even seen that fight because it was comical how big Dom looked, one of the biggest size advantages I've seen to this day and it made such a huge difference in that fight. If they were the same size I'd have picked DJ all day seeing how well he did size considered. It literally looked like a dad wrestling his son.
Mizugaki was a weak opponent but I'll let it slide as it was his first fight back in awhile, for a guy who is always boasting about how ring rust doesn't exist though you'd have expected him to pick a decent opponent. Everyone was dying to see him face Barao at the time, that was the fight to make and he dodged that. But again I'll let it slide and not judge him too harshly, however fuck letting him off with what he did while champ.
Faber was past it, on a 1 fight streak and in no way deserving of a shot at the time, there were so many guys ahead of him more deserving and that's ignoring the fact the TJ rematch should have absolutely been straight after. Then you're trying to justify the supposed 135 GOAT choosing #6 ranked, unproven against elite competition, young and green Garbrandt who he though would be a walk in the park. Hilarious how that one backfired.
I think it is you who sounds ridiculous here buddy listen to yourself, the mental gymnastics to try spin that shameful reign is laughable lol
Dom is still holding out for that Keith Peterson fight
100% monster energy
Mellencamp? John Mellencamp! Has to be him
I know it's not it, but my brain keeps coming back to Hans Moleman.
Fuck it, book it, Dana.
For the Frailest MF belt.
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Haha. It's mollenkamp. I'm not sure how to spell it. My spell check thing changed it to Mellencamp, found it funny
Hans Cougar Mellencamp.
Fuck John Cougar Mellencamp. Put Dom in there with a live cougar.
Really want Aldo vs Dom
Dom would die, don’t want Dom to take this fight :(
Dom needs to fight ASAP, Aldo v Cruz is all I want for Christmas
Why? Cruz would be murdered. Stylistically that’s a TERRIBLE matchup for Cruz
Two kings of their era and plus just the curiosity of it all. How would Cruz deal with Aldo
Bro they aren’t kings anymore, and Cruz wouldn’t deal with Aldo. He’d be defenseless. He was hurt by garbrandts leg kicks just imagine what Aldo would do, and there’s no taking Aldo down when Cruz is smaller and older + aldo’s great TDD. “Curiosity” of it all, unless you’re a dom stan there’s no question about who’s winning
The athletic commission has the power to stop fights being booked because there would be a clear winner and it’s a health risk for the loser, that would be a fight that gets stopped.
I’d favour Aldo as well but your last little paragraph just plain isn’t true. The athletic commissions would never step in between two top 10 fighters and stop them from fighting. That’s straight up hyperbole.
Even talking about Aldos leg kicks, he probably threw like less than 10 in his last fight. They were effective though, of course. Dom has definitely declined more than Aldo but I don’t think the gap is as big as you’re trying to make it sound.
Yeah duh it’s called exaggeration the athletic commission rarely every steps in.
The gap is massive. Dom struggled with Casey Kenny bro. I know everyone on this sub loves dominick the Decisionmaker Cruz but let’s please deal in reality.
I mean Ffs name ONE thing Cruz can do to win over Aldo that wouldn’t easily be negated. Dom isn’t a top 10 BW anymore, probably not top 15. He’s old, his style has been exposed, and he can’t even perform the style because he’s too slow at this point. He needs to retire.
I don’t wanna say Chito is a dark horse of the division but he’s kinda of an above average fighter who can easily take out some of the older, declining fighters. A high risk low rewards fight. (I don’t even see OMalley going for a rematch tbh) I don’t blame Cruz for not fighting him tbh, hell probs try for a bigger name
I’d love to see Cruz v Aldo
I think Aldo does bad things to Dom
Yeah its the kind of fight that wouldve been insane to watch in 2010-2012 when both were at their peak
Fucks him up in his prime too.
At 135 though?
Like right now or back then?
Aldo didn't have a nutricionist so it may have went bad for him, but assuming he made the weight cut healthy... Aldo all day
Idk man, 2011 cruz was insane, i think it wouldve been a very competitive fight although i would probably favor Aldo
Based off his performance against Munhoz I’d have to agree. Still, would be an interesting fight imo
If Aldo is kicking and its 3 rounds, I see Aldo winning.
Chito is a good fighter he just got a bit too big of a push after fighting O'Malley. I think Edgar is a good matchup for him but I could also see it being a bit like Frankie Vs Yair.
Oooo interesting take. Do you think Edgar can do it to him tho? He’s slower, older, smaller
He was pretty fuckin fast in the Munhoz fight. If he shows up like that, I could see him pulling it off.
Frankie was looking pretty fast…when he fought one of the slowest bantamweights.
You can judge someone’s speed without looking at the guy next to him, you know…
Chito 5'8 71inc reach
Edgar 5'6 68inc reach
Crazy that he used to be champ at 155 when he's almost undersized at 135.
It was crazy watching him fight Sandhagen. In the 15 seconds it lasted I was thinking "jeez does Edgar need '25"? Realistically probably not since Cory is just massive but crazy we're down at 135 and Edgar still seems smaller in these fights.
Sandhagen isn't even massive, according to him its not a hard cut. He's just lanky
I hear people compare Sandhagen and O’Malley a lot size wise, but I think O’Malley is quite a bit bigger tbh. Sandhagen is a lanky mfer
Sandhagen doesn't have bird bones though.
his elbows last fight were nasty
his elbows in every one of his fights are nasty
I feel like Chito is a bit overrated if anything. He's good in the clinch against the cage.
I’m big on Chito but “easily” isn’t the word to use here.
My money is on both Edgar or Dom bearing Chito. I’ll pick him over Assuncao from the aging fighters, but he’s fighting uphill against Dom and Frankie IMO.
What have Frankie or Dom shown to prove they are top guys in the division anymore. Both had lackluster performances in their last few fights, Frankie easily could've lost vs Munhoz and got starched by Sandhagen, Cruz got starched by Cejudo and had an ugly win vs Kenney.
I'm not saying Chito would do better in any of those fights, but I'm not seeing much reasoning for them beating Chito except for the fact that they are all time greats and USED to be top guys in their divisions.
Oh I don't deny that they are not top talent anymore. Styles make fights my guy lol. I just think both of them specifically will make Chito work for his victory, harder than others. I can see him beating both, I just wouldn't say its light work. He's working for both of those victories.
I can see both just touching him and dancing around the cage to a not so exciting decision. I can see both old dudes just outworking him. I can see both catching a leg with all of the kicks Chito loves to throw, and just grinding him out.
Oh for sure, neither of those guys are an easy beat unless you can pull out a crazy flying knee like Sandhagen, which I'd argue will only happen once in a blue moon. Both frankie and Cruz are experienced as fuck, they know how to slow down fights and get people into the positions they need to be successful. However, they are both old as fuck, Frankie's chin hasn't been the same as it used to since the Ortega fight and I'd argue that a leg kick heavy gameplan has been discovered that can nullify Cruz's movement.
Both frankie and Cruz are my favorite fighters along with max and Whittaker, I just don't see them consistently beating the top 5 guys anymore. And part of me believes that Chito has the potential to be a top 5 guy should he keep his head straight.
Fair take. Hopefully Dom fights soon so we can see soon. Like you said, he’s old as fuck and ain’t getting any younger. Especially with all of the injuries.
Personally, I'd rather Dom and frankie retired. They have nothing left to prove, they are both all time greats in MMA, and have prove that even now, way past their physical primes, that they are elite fighters.
A retirement bout between frankie and Cruz would be competitive and would take nothing away from their legacies. They should both be proud that they accomplished things that no one else could, while doing it in a way that no one else could replicate.
Lol bro I’ve wanted them to fight for a long time. And yeah but it’s unlikely just yet. Hopefully soon though.
Probably because Kenney and Munhoz are both quite a bit better wins than anyone Chito has beaten. Even if they didn’t look fantastic in those fights, they were fighting better competition than Chito has been winning against by a decent margin.
I'll agree that Munhoz is a better win than anyone Vera has fought, and has fought considerably better opposition than Vera.
But saying Kenney has fought and beaten better competition is a joke. O'Malley by himself is a better win than any that Kenney has picked up, and id argue at this point in time is better than anyone Kenney has even fought in the division as Cruz is so far past his prime and washed as fuck. Hell, I'd argue Davey Grant is better than any of the guys that Kenney has beaten at bantamweight. He mightve lost to Aldo and Yadong, but both of those guys are levels ahead of anyone Kenney has fought.
Idunno man you have to go back like 5 years to find the last fighter with a winning UFC record that Chito has beaten besides O’Malley and I wouldn’t favour him in that rematch. And that win was Kelleher who is like 6-5 in the UFC or something.
I think Woods, Smolka, Royval, Borg and Bermudez are all as good if wins or better than The majority of Chitos wins. Granted he has fought and performed reasonably well against higher level competition, as you mentioned. But I thought Kenney did better against Yadong than Chito did.
Not a mega Chito fan or whatever but I feel like he managed to both look really good and really bad in the Aldo fight? Chito was outdoing Aldo in the standup by round 2 (he lost the first round pretty clearly but adjusted in the second) and that's really not easy to do at all against Aldo? IMO he deserves more props for that than what he gets (pretty much no props at all for it basically) even if he was comically helpless against human backpack Aldo in round 3
I'd be content if Cruz fought a janitor at this point. Just fight already, he's 36 and as a fan it feels like he's wasting what time he has left. I get that he's probably wary of getting injured again, but still.
Don’t think he’s exactly dying for money since he had a gig at the desk. At this point in his career he is only going to take fights that give him a big upside. I feel like he’d fight aljo if he loses since it’s probably the quickest way to a title or maybe do the rematch with TJ.
Dom is on a different mission right now lol
Didn’t Dom turn him down inside his locker room on camera while not wearing any pants? Not exactly a secret.
Yeah it was the top comment in a post a month ago with the title "Chito Vera reveals Dominic Cruz declined to fight him" lmao
Dominic cruz also turned down a fight with me dude is bitchmade
Ive lost a lot of respectful for omalley since he chose to duck Vera and only care about the money. Dude is fighting nobodies and wants to be paid like hes fighting mcgregor. O malley faced one true opponent and we all seen what happened.
He can only duck real competition for so long in the UFC.
He just wants to keep the narrative that he only lost because of a freak injury alive too.
Can't stand these new era fans defending this clown too. Yeah I get it I'm all for fighters being paid more too but this "hE's a PriZe FiGhTeR" BS I see everyone on here lately parotting is such a load of bolox, can't believe there are so many idiots on here defending this clown and him cherry picking opponents. He's paid more than enough in comparison to his peers who have actually achieved something in this sport and not just made a name for themselves from beating up cans and being an edgelord weedbro who has crazy hairy styles to hide his lack of personality.
Reminder that Bisping actually filmed Dom turning Chito https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6DnWsnNYPk
Dom is not wearing pants; Chito is not wearing a shirt. Combined, they have a full outfit
Dom can wait for someone higher up for sure.
Dom was my favourite cat, but now he keeps posting anti vax shit with the latest actually saying the information was ‘viscous’ not vicious.
I was such a huge Cruz fan. He's become such a disappointment. He should have retired after losing to Garbrandt.
Winning against Frankie would probably be a bigger push than winning against Cruz at this point. And Frankie would be an easier fight likely.
I would've rather seen Cruz VS Edgar. No idea why they haven't made that fight. I still miss Lineker. Imagine Him VS Cruz or Pedro.