Exactly...anyone with a lick of common dog sense could see that yet....here we are.
Oops.... I made a booboo. Yeah go tell that to your victims next of kin sister...I am sure they will appreciate your 20/20 hindsight.
But hey... Rushing the reopen so that Kenney could do a photoshoot mask-free serving pancakes at Stampede... Totally worth it.
The man is personally responsible for many of these deaths... Because he wanted to serve pancakes.
Let that sink in...
I have the picture of his fucking face when he was flipping them in my phone so I can just reminisce on that one.
All you needed to know about Kenney was revealed when balloons fell at his victory speech and he basically looked like he turned into Cartman from South Park grown up.
So basically these high ranking folks just realized what every doctor and occupant of the province has been saying since they relaxed restrictions. Talk about living in a bubble.
I think this type of thinking lets them "off the hook" too much. Is there an opposite for Hanlon's razor? Please don't attribute this error to their stupidity when these people made decisions while ignoring science and facts. They have another agenda that has a higher priority than the health of Albertans.
100% THIS. This wasn't an error on their part - EVERYONE saw this coming. Their bullshit 'covid is over' stance and intention to drop testing, tracing and isolating didn't make international news for nothing. They just don't care.
She's clearly incompetent at her job. Kenney is Alberta's own fault. They voted him in like a bunch of ostriches with their heads in the sand. But Hinshaw wasn't voted in. She needs to be fired. 70% of Albertans knew the reopening was irresponsible yet the person who is educated in the matter failed to see it? She needs to go!
She clearly has no desire to do the job seriously, but Kenney doesn't want someone doing the job seriously, he just wants someone to take orders. If she gets fired she'll be replaced with a carbon copy. I agree that she's useless, but it all comes back to Kenney.
My sympathy for Hinshaw is almost nil these days, but I think people need to realise her role and how hamstrung she is. Her job (and indeed in most civil service) is to provide recommendations to elected leaders/Cabinet committee. She is likely under immense pressure to provide recommendations that align with UCP ideology over COVID ( "let it rip"). Even if she provides strong recommendations for restrictions, Cabinet has zero obligation to pick that option and might pick the worst option. And then she has to be the face of whatever decision was made.
She was appointed by the NDP, so I'm doubtful she is some libertarian plant who is secretly anti-restriction. The situation is more analogous to Fauci under Trump; Fauci had to bite his tongue constantly because he knew if he was fired, some ideologically-aligned boot-licker might come in and make the situation worse.
That said, I still think Hinshaw should resign as she has provided cover for the worst response in the country to the pandemic. Although the real blames lies at the feet of the UCP, Hinshaw bears some responsibility.
Agreed. But she could have publically stated she was against the lifting of all testing and treating it an endemic.
She could have stood up for something. Instead she gets to be the "fall guy" for every stupid decision made. She now gets to fall on her sword for nothing.
And then another UCP bro can take the position. It sucks. Public health officials shouldn't have to play politics, but the pandemic has become incredibly political. Sadly now she "gets" to take the blame for Alberta being where we are and the actual decision makers just get to point a finger like they aren't responsible for this mess.
She had the **FULL** ability to overstep Kenny as CMOH. Don't for one second think she couldn't have stepped in and told these fucks what to do.
She *should* resign FFS. Enough is enough. She chose her side and needs to live with blood on her hands.
Clearly you've never worked in a government setting and don't understand the top-down hierarchical processes. She reports to the DM of Health and Shandro, she really can't do much of anything on her own. The role is providing "advice" to cabinet. [https://www.alberta.ca/office-of-the-chief-medical-officer-of-health.aspx](https://www.alberta.ca/office-of-the-chief-medical-officer-of-health.aspx)
Again, I 100% agree she should resign for putting a pleasant face to absolute disaster. The blood is *really* on the hands of the UCP though - vote the fuckers out - Hinshaw could've been replaced with another peon and the result would be the same.
She didn't have to double down on her decision with multiple statements and letters about why it was the right thing to do and how we should just all live with it.
Fauci bit his tongue constantly but he still pushed very hard for the things he thought needed to be done, said as much as he could say until the mic was snatched from him, and was basically a constant thorn in Trump's side because of that. So much that there were constant rumours that Trump would fire him almost every other week. The only reason Trump didn't is because of Fauci's clout and public support. You can't compare Hinshaw to that.
We're basically blaming Hinshaw for trying to hold onto her politics job, because as a doctor that all Albertans looked to for guidance out of a pandemic she has lied through her teeth and failed us. Personally I think if Hinshaw wants our sympathy, she should have resigned when Kenney made her back questionable decisions as a sign of her disapproval. It's too late for her to appeal for kindness.
At this point her staying in and doing nothing just makes her a puppet.
She could do more by resigning and letting the province know of the UCP's bs. Right now she's just not really doing much visible good
Sorry to say, I honestly don't give a shit what she says anymore.
Her updates are as information dense as a wispy morning cloud, and her decision making is beyond questionable. She's been a mouthpiece for one of the dumbest governments I've ever seen in my life, and I absolutely cannot give anyone the time of day that has no integrity to stand up and do what's right in this situation. The fact that she hasn't tells me she's more than fine just doing what she's been doing and cashing the paycheck for it.
Kenney and Shandro, as deplorable as their actions are... They are ass backwards politicians. Hinshaw is a DOCTOR, who went to med school, and interacted with patients.
There is an extra layer of disgust that hits me when I hear her start to speak, I just can't listen to her for more than a couple minutes before having to stop and do something else.
She needs to resign. Part of the Hippocratic Oath states: "The physician must be able to tell the antecedents, know the present, and foretell the future — must mediate these things, and have two special objects in view with regard to disease, namely, to do good or to do no harm.".
This is part of the basis of the-oft quoted "first, do no harm". She has done significant harm to the health of Albertans and has demonstrated that she cannot do her job properly given her role as a UCP puppet.
Just want say fuck you to those who won’t wear masks or get vaccinated. I’ve been good this whole time and. Ow I get a prelim positive on a pcr. Like fuck
I like That it took almost a complete failure of the medical system to admit they were wrong. Not every other dr. In the world saying they were wrong minutes after the announcement.
She should be gone... the Delta Variant, Stampede and Canada Day were not taken into consideration in their decision making. The Stampede and Canada Day were all Kenney would talk about leading up to the decision... YET THEY WEREN'T CONSIDERED?
>YET THEY WEREN'T CONSIDERED?
They were considered, they were the reason why restrictions were lifted and a plan was put in place to completely kick them to the curb.
You missed the point... they were the type of occurrences that had the potential to be super spreaders and they were not considered in their data. I realize the Stampede was not... but that had more to do with organizers than anything the province did or didn't do.
Right, but it's not just stampede. It's the associated parties, events and gatherings that come with the event. Don't host the event and a lot of those gatherings don't happen.
And then all of those people isolated and never saw anyone. To say only 129 cases were associated with the event directly speaks nothing on how it spread from there.
But the mystery data that they need to build a narrative around before releasing to the public and medical community, told them it was ok I guess. Fuck this government and their politics over public safety bullshit.
I am so sick of her clueless ‘well how could I have known things would get so bad’ backpedaling. 🙄 FFS woman call a spade a spade and just acknowledge you’re nothing more than kenneys puppet.
I hope she’s being smart with all this government money she’s making because I can’t see her being employed as a doctor ever again.
She said she was going to share the data these decisions to open were based off of a month ago. She never slapped anything together and now this response is the equivalent of an "oopsie daisy".
This is true. We did relax too early and we shouldn't relax again unless we get our numbers down. Way down. The numbers of the unvaxxed need to be down to what 2 or 3%. maybe? Or a more serious variant could be far more deadly. The unmasked stand way too close in lines and walk too close on streets and in public venues so just no more..... They refuse to live safely among us so they must be forced.
Stop giving her credit. This is her hedging her statements to offload guilt. She is complicit in the death of hundreds or thousands of Albertans before we even consider the ramifications of delayed surgeries and a collapsing health care. I'm the fight for life and health, she towed the lies of her boss on live television to indoctrinate opinions instead of saving Albertans. Bad blood is on that doctors hands regardless what she may say now.
She said they saw signs the move was too early back in *early August*. They had an entire month to decide to do something at the early signs, and did nothing so that ICU beds would fill up. At a time when ICU staff were already burnt out and walking out before this delta surge mind you. She tries to justify that they acted "based on evidence at the time", but everyone knows, and she of all people should know, that with covid there is a lag in reporting and logging trends as well as the risk of exponential spread. If you want to make policy on covid you not only look at short term vaccination goals, you look at predictions and modelling or even trends in other countries that are further in their waves, not current data you have on hand. So either they ignored the modelling or didn't even do any modelling(they did try to scrap it once before right after the 1st wave) and made their decisions based on naive, or even negligent optimism.
Then she goes on to blame vaccine hesitancy as if there was nothing else the government could possibly do, ask for "kindness" because of backlash against "her" poor decision making, and defend her work and heart. What a great way to show Albertans she cares.
She has a job to protect, but in doing that she's betrayed Albertans' trust in her as a doctor and expert and she should accept all the backlash she gets as a result of her actions instead of appealing for kindness.
I watched her response to the first question. Her facial expression was interesting. Very flat. Slow, slow blinking. Her answers were very composed and very robotic. She’s either been completely suppressed/gagged by kenney and clowns or she had us fooled into believing that her calmness was strength, when it’s just a lack of ability to emote. Very flat responses.
She could have consulted the average Albertan ~ we knew it was too soon, just like the last three times 🤡Kenney relaxed things. We are here, with the most cases in Canada, thanks to him and his very incompetent 🤡minister of health. Nothing to brag about, Jason! Hinshaw should resign
She needs to be fired. But she won't be because she listens to Kenney and Shandro. What an embarrassment to conservatives everywhere. Doug Ford seems to be on the ball more than Kenney!
Endemic is not something that gets decided on a provincial level. That's gonna have to be something the international community and organizations like the CDC and WHO collectively agree to.
I'm really tired of her title of "top doctor" when so many of our other doctors in this province actually have super solid knowledge and can actually provide factual evidence to back up their ideas.
Hinshaw is just riding this out and pocketing her 400k salary. I don't think she honestly cares at this point. Or she actually agrees with the UCP
I remember back when this pandemic was in the early stages everyone on this sub was in love with Hinshaw, even to the point of renaming some LRT or something with her name. Her Periodic Table of Elements dress was also a big hit for you guys. Now though? Now you guys hate her because Alberta has poor covid19 stats and realized she was under the pressure of the UCP the entire time.
Figure your shit out guys. I am never sure if the Edmonton subreddit is actually this blind or just too Liberal.
People’s opinions change. Is that hard to understand?
At the start of the pandemic, her briefings were a source of comfort and the governments decisions seemed reasonable. Months later it became pretty clear that the UCP aren’t interested in following the scientific consensus. They didn’t do it last fall (not until it was far too late to save Christmas), they didn’t do it this spring, and they’re still not doing it now.
So yeah, now we’re pretty pissed at Deena.
To be clear this was not me defending her. I hated her from the beginning! I could tell by her media briefings that she was full of political shit and that her answers were political, not scientific. I just wish you all saw that as early as I had.
Cheers!
her response should have been commensurate with the threat to the public's health, and she shit the bed as the crisis unfolded.. Seems totally reasonable to hate someone you liked when they had a strong start but now she refuses to act in anyone's interest but her own. don't you think it's fucking insane that our ICUs are going to be full while our schools will soon be empty... AGAIN??
To be clear this was not me defending her. I hated her from the beginning! I could tell by her media briefings that she was full of political shit and that her answers were political, not scientific. I just wish you all saw that as early as I had.
Cheers!
Alberta has pretty much always had poor COVID numbers. That's on her watch and she has to be held responsible. She can blame the UCP but then if she had any self-respect she would resign.
I agree, but initially we reacted like everyone and locked down. That was when she was being lauded. Her actions have changed - she’s now following ideological priorities not health properties. Therefore it’s perfectly fair to change our opinion of her.
As an aside, I’m not a people worshipper anyways, idealizing people is not a good thing, all humans are fallible. Worshipping someone is setting yourself up for disappointment. Or never meet your heroes.
I’m a fucking maintenance worker and could clearly see it was a mistake. What the heck!!
Im a fuckin stupid piece of shit and I knew this was comin
Hahaha
Impossible, my father is dead.
Dude! I'm a UCP MLA, and I... oh... uhm... never mind.
Old boomer here.....could clearly see it was a mistake!
Exactly...anyone with a lick of common dog sense could see that yet....here we are. Oops.... I made a booboo. Yeah go tell that to your victims next of kin sister...I am sure they will appreciate your 20/20 hindsight.
Is this just her way of saying, “Oops— my bad, guys.”
But hey... Rushing the reopen so that Kenney could do a photoshoot mask-free serving pancakes at Stampede... Totally worth it. The man is personally responsible for many of these deaths... Because he wanted to serve pancakes. Let that sink in...
I have the picture of his fucking face when he was flipping them in my phone so I can just reminisce on that one. All you needed to know about Kenney was revealed when balloons fell at his victory speech and he basically looked like he turned into Cartman from South Park grown up.
He wanted a good photo op, I don’t think he cares that much about pancakes.
You are right. It's all about the cheeseburgers.
A man's gotta eat
Make all the pancakes to free up the griddle for some nice cheesy burgs.
Cheeseburgers are a budget pancake
What kind of cheeseburgers are you eating?
I'm more interested in the magic pancakes at this point.
This was Kenney's equivalent to Trump gassing people for a photo op with the upside down bible.
Totally..but even worse
All because people told him to settle down when he predicted the best summer ever in May.
So basically these high ranking folks just realized what every doctor and occupant of the province has been saying since they relaxed restrictions. Talk about living in a bubble.
I think this type of thinking lets them "off the hook" too much. Is there an opposite for Hanlon's razor? Please don't attribute this error to their stupidity when these people made decisions while ignoring science and facts. They have another agenda that has a higher priority than the health of Albertans.
Greys law maybe? "Any sufficiently advanced incompetence is indistinguishable from malice"
100% THIS. This wasn't an error on their part - EVERYONE saw this coming. Their bullshit 'covid is over' stance and intention to drop testing, tracing and isolating didn't make international news for nothing. They just don't care.
> They have another agenda that has a higher priority than the health of Albertans. A higher agenda like keeping the Calgary Stampede on schedule!
No. Fucking. Shit. Alberta: “COVID is just an endemic now. 🤡” The rest of the world: “Um what?”
She's clearly incompetent at her job. Kenney is Alberta's own fault. They voted him in like a bunch of ostriches with their heads in the sand. But Hinshaw wasn't voted in. She needs to be fired. 70% of Albertans knew the reopening was irresponsible yet the person who is educated in the matter failed to see it? She needs to go!
She clearly has no desire to do the job seriously, but Kenney doesn't want someone doing the job seriously, he just wants someone to take orders. If she gets fired she'll be replaced with a carbon copy. I agree that she's useless, but it all comes back to Kenney.
She does whatever Kenney twlls her to do
Everyone and their dog was saying this, but again Kenny and co. don't listen unless it fits their narrative.
My sympathy for Hinshaw is almost nil these days, but I think people need to realise her role and how hamstrung she is. Her job (and indeed in most civil service) is to provide recommendations to elected leaders/Cabinet committee. She is likely under immense pressure to provide recommendations that align with UCP ideology over COVID ( "let it rip"). Even if she provides strong recommendations for restrictions, Cabinet has zero obligation to pick that option and might pick the worst option. And then she has to be the face of whatever decision was made. She was appointed by the NDP, so I'm doubtful she is some libertarian plant who is secretly anti-restriction. The situation is more analogous to Fauci under Trump; Fauci had to bite his tongue constantly because he knew if he was fired, some ideologically-aligned boot-licker might come in and make the situation worse. That said, I still think Hinshaw should resign as she has provided cover for the worst response in the country to the pandemic. Although the real blames lies at the feet of the UCP, Hinshaw bears some responsibility.
Agreed. But she could have publically stated she was against the lifting of all testing and treating it an endemic. She could have stood up for something. Instead she gets to be the "fall guy" for every stupid decision made. She now gets to fall on her sword for nothing. And then another UCP bro can take the position. It sucks. Public health officials shouldn't have to play politics, but the pandemic has become incredibly political. Sadly now she "gets" to take the blame for Alberta being where we are and the actual decision makers just get to point a finger like they aren't responsible for this mess.
She had the **FULL** ability to overstep Kenny as CMOH. Don't for one second think she couldn't have stepped in and told these fucks what to do. She *should* resign FFS. Enough is enough. She chose her side and needs to live with blood on her hands.
Clearly you've never worked in a government setting and don't understand the top-down hierarchical processes. She reports to the DM of Health and Shandro, she really can't do much of anything on her own. The role is providing "advice" to cabinet. [https://www.alberta.ca/office-of-the-chief-medical-officer-of-health.aspx](https://www.alberta.ca/office-of-the-chief-medical-officer-of-health.aspx) Again, I 100% agree she should resign for putting a pleasant face to absolute disaster. The blood is *really* on the hands of the UCP though - vote the fuckers out - Hinshaw could've been replaced with another peon and the result would be the same.
She didn't have to double down on her decision with multiple statements and letters about why it was the right thing to do and how we should just all live with it.
Fauci bit his tongue constantly but he still pushed very hard for the things he thought needed to be done, said as much as he could say until the mic was snatched from him, and was basically a constant thorn in Trump's side because of that. So much that there were constant rumours that Trump would fire him almost every other week. The only reason Trump didn't is because of Fauci's clout and public support. You can't compare Hinshaw to that. We're basically blaming Hinshaw for trying to hold onto her politics job, because as a doctor that all Albertans looked to for guidance out of a pandemic she has lied through her teeth and failed us. Personally I think if Hinshaw wants our sympathy, she should have resigned when Kenney made her back questionable decisions as a sign of her disapproval. It's too late for her to appeal for kindness.
Exactly this. Well put.
Agreed! Eloquence is a skill and this response oozed with it.
At this point her staying in and doing nothing just makes her a puppet. She could do more by resigning and letting the province know of the UCP's bs. Right now she's just not really doing much visible good
Pretty clear that Albertans have completely lost trust the leadership
What leadership?
Sorry to say, I honestly don't give a shit what she says anymore. Her updates are as information dense as a wispy morning cloud, and her decision making is beyond questionable. She's been a mouthpiece for one of the dumbest governments I've ever seen in my life, and I absolutely cannot give anyone the time of day that has no integrity to stand up and do what's right in this situation. The fact that she hasn't tells me she's more than fine just doing what she's been doing and cashing the paycheck for it.
Kenney and Shandro, as deplorable as their actions are... They are ass backwards politicians. Hinshaw is a DOCTOR, who went to med school, and interacted with patients. There is an extra layer of disgust that hits me when I hear her start to speak, I just can't listen to her for more than a couple minutes before having to stop and do something else.
Yes. It comes down to her personal integrity (and lack thereof). Every other MD in the province is against what UCP has been doing regarding COVID.
Kenney throws Hinshaw under the bus again and refuses to take responsibility for his government. What a fucking clown.
She needs to resign. Part of the Hippocratic Oath states: "The physician must be able to tell the antecedents, know the present, and foretell the future — must mediate these things, and have two special objects in view with regard to disease, namely, to do good or to do no harm.". This is part of the basis of the-oft quoted "first, do no harm". She has done significant harm to the health of Albertans and has demonstrated that she cannot do her job properly given her role as a UCP puppet.
I would love for a reporter to ask her that. "Dr. Hinshaw, did you betray the hippocratic oath or are you a terrible doctor?"
Here to point out that taking the hippocratic oath is optional.
And depends on the medical school, and isn’t the famous quote everyone uses.
TIL
That makes sense actually otherwise you would never have doctors supporting patients in euthanasia cases etc.
I would say that in some cases euthanasia IS doing less harm than letting someone linger.
Just want say fuck you to those who won’t wear masks or get vaccinated. I’ve been good this whole time and. Ow I get a prelim positive on a pcr. Like fuck
I share your sentiment
I like That it took almost a complete failure of the medical system to admit they were wrong. Not every other dr. In the world saying they were wrong minutes after the announcement.
If anyone buys this BS story I have some ocean front property to sell you in Saskatchewan. They knew it was then. They didn’t care
No Shit Sherlock...
She should be gone... the Delta Variant, Stampede and Canada Day were not taken into consideration in their decision making. The Stampede and Canada Day were all Kenney would talk about leading up to the decision... YET THEY WEREN'T CONSIDERED?
>YET THEY WEREN'T CONSIDERED? They were considered, they were the reason why restrictions were lifted and a plan was put in place to completely kick them to the curb.
We know they were... however, they weren't cited in the data.
Who needs data when you have [pancakes](https://smartcdn.prod.postmedia.digital/calgarysun/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/kenney.jpg)?
Haha...
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You missed the point... they were the type of occurrences that had the potential to be super spreaders and they were not considered in their data. I realize the Stampede was not... but that had more to do with organizers than anything the province did or didn't do.
Stampede is mostly an outdoor event. While crowded, it was far less risk than you would think.
Right, but it's not just stampede. It's the associated parties, events and gatherings that come with the event. Don't host the event and a lot of those gatherings don't happen.
True. I could care less about the stampede anyway, like it really didn't need to happen.
Yeah fully agree. Growing up in calgary I always hated it. Working downtown solidified that sentiment
I'm so thankful I don't live downtown just to avoid that once a year bullshit haha. I only ever been once and it was a nightmare.
Yes... realize that, but having attended it many times, I know the risk.
And then all of those people isolated and never saw anyone. To say only 129 cases were associated with the event directly speaks nothing on how it spread from there.
also: scientists say water is wet. more on this startling discovery next.
No shit, please resign.
But the mystery data that they need to build a narrative around before releasing to the public and medical community, told them it was ok I guess. Fuck this government and their politics over public safety bullshit.
I am so sick of her clueless ‘well how could I have known things would get so bad’ backpedaling. 🙄 FFS woman call a spade a spade and just acknowledge you’re nothing more than kenneys puppet. I hope she’s being smart with all this government money she’s making because I can’t see her being employed as a doctor ever again.
She said she was going to share the data these decisions to open were based off of a month ago. She never slapped anything together and now this response is the equivalent of an "oopsie daisy".
Yup 100%. I am still ‘waiting’ on this ‘science’ of hers. 😂
Well, she SHOULD have known....most of the rest of us ordinary people did!
That’s exactly what I am saying. She should have known and acted responsibly, but all she does is push Jason kenney’s agenda.
Yup.....she's like a parrot....blah blah blah....echoing his idiocies
Who could have seen this coming.
Do you mean couldn’t have?
Here's an /s just for you.
Hahahahaha thanks for spelling it out for me. I sure feel smart 😬
Color me surprised...!
You don’t say…
This is true. We did relax too early and we shouldn't relax again unless we get our numbers down. Way down. The numbers of the unvaxxed need to be down to what 2 or 3%. maybe? Or a more serious variant could be far more deadly. The unmasked stand way too close in lines and walk too close on streets and in public venues so just no more..... They refuse to live safely among us so they must be forced.
when the imposter is sus!
Yeah, it was a nice try, but they chewed the scenery a bit too much.
Stop giving her credit. This is her hedging her statements to offload guilt. She is complicit in the death of hundreds or thousands of Albertans before we even consider the ramifications of delayed surgeries and a collapsing health care. I'm the fight for life and health, she towed the lies of her boss on live television to indoctrinate opinions instead of saving Albertans. Bad blood is on that doctors hands regardless what she may say now.
Can we PLEASE just make wearing cowboy hats mandatory now??
Even before covid their main goal was to privatize health care. This is a dream scenario for the UCP. Worst thing to ever happen to Alberta.
No Shit Hinshaw and it happened on your watch!
She said they saw signs the move was too early back in *early August*. They had an entire month to decide to do something at the early signs, and did nothing so that ICU beds would fill up. At a time when ICU staff were already burnt out and walking out before this delta surge mind you. She tries to justify that they acted "based on evidence at the time", but everyone knows, and she of all people should know, that with covid there is a lag in reporting and logging trends as well as the risk of exponential spread. If you want to make policy on covid you not only look at short term vaccination goals, you look at predictions and modelling or even trends in other countries that are further in their waves, not current data you have on hand. So either they ignored the modelling or didn't even do any modelling(they did try to scrap it once before right after the 1st wave) and made their decisions based on naive, or even negligent optimism. Then she goes on to blame vaccine hesitancy as if there was nothing else the government could possibly do, ask for "kindness" because of backlash against "her" poor decision making, and defend her work and heart. What a great way to show Albertans she cares. She has a job to protect, but in doing that she's betrayed Albertans' trust in her as a doctor and expert and she should accept all the backlash she gets as a result of her actions instead of appealing for kindness.
And the sky is blue. No shit sherlock. Anyone with a half a fucking brain cell could have seen that. And now we're all paying the price
Humble pie served by Kenny
I have lost any trust in Deena Hinshaw and have no interest in hearing anything she has to say.
I watched her response to the first question. Her facial expression was interesting. Very flat. Slow, slow blinking. Her answers were very composed and very robotic. She’s either been completely suppressed/gagged by kenney and clowns or she had us fooled into believing that her calmness was strength, when it’s just a lack of ability to emote. Very flat responses.
I’m concerned this will lead AB to having a higher child mortality rate due to COVID :(
I am tired of this woman. Maybe own up to some of the deaths. People are dying because she is complicit in this mess.
She could have consulted the average Albertan ~ we knew it was too soon, just like the last three times 🤡Kenney relaxed things. We are here, with the most cases in Canada, thanks to him and his very incompetent 🤡minister of health. Nothing to brag about, Jason! Hinshaw should resign
They may be clowns. But reading that made me think you jumped out the clown car with em.
If only there was some way they could have known.
She needs to resign.
Anyone with two brain cells to run together could have told you that, hinshaw...
Ya think....
Imbecile here - I coulda called this one
We need to hold these clowns criminally responsible for all this.
No shit Sherlock
Fucking duh?!
Found a new job for these clowns https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcbR1J\_4ICg
FYI: When you are publicly, egregiously wrong, and literally EVERYONE ELSE was right, that is the appropriate moment to resign.
lifting the restrictions is a good thing
Step into my Office…….”You’re fired”
I fix toilets and new it was to early.
This government sure is shit-ass.
She needs to be fired. But she won't be because she listens to Kenney and Shandro. What an embarrassment to conservatives everywhere. Doug Ford seems to be on the ball more than Kenney!
Well, if she made a mistake like this. She should quit her Job TBH.
Endemic is not something that gets decided on a provincial level. That's gonna have to be something the international community and organizations like the CDC and WHO collectively agree to.
No. Fucking. Shit. This woman needs to go to jail. Along with the rest of the UCP
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I'm really tired of her title of "top doctor" when so many of our other doctors in this province actually have super solid knowledge and can actually provide factual evidence to back up their ideas. Hinshaw is just riding this out and pocketing her 400k salary. I don't think she honestly cares at this point. Or she actually agrees with the UCP
I remember back when this pandemic was in the early stages everyone on this sub was in love with Hinshaw, even to the point of renaming some LRT or something with her name. Her Periodic Table of Elements dress was also a big hit for you guys. Now though? Now you guys hate her because Alberta has poor covid19 stats and realized she was under the pressure of the UCP the entire time. Figure your shit out guys. I am never sure if the Edmonton subreddit is actually this blind or just too Liberal.
People’s opinions change. Is that hard to understand? At the start of the pandemic, her briefings were a source of comfort and the governments decisions seemed reasonable. Months later it became pretty clear that the UCP aren’t interested in following the scientific consensus. They didn’t do it last fall (not until it was far too late to save Christmas), they didn’t do it this spring, and they’re still not doing it now. So yeah, now we’re pretty pissed at Deena.
To be clear this was not me defending her. I hated her from the beginning! I could tell by her media briefings that she was full of political shit and that her answers were political, not scientific. I just wish you all saw that as early as I had. Cheers!
Cheers mate!
her response should have been commensurate with the threat to the public's health, and she shit the bed as the crisis unfolded.. Seems totally reasonable to hate someone you liked when they had a strong start but now she refuses to act in anyone's interest but her own. don't you think it's fucking insane that our ICUs are going to be full while our schools will soon be empty... AGAIN??
To be clear this was not me defending her. I hated her from the beginning! I could tell by her media briefings that she was full of political shit and that her answers were political, not scientific. I just wish you all saw that as early as I had. Cheers!
wow, trendsetter.
ok
Name checks out.
Alberta has pretty much always had poor COVID numbers. That's on her watch and she has to be held responsible. She can blame the UCP but then if she had any self-respect she would resign.
I agree, but initially we reacted like everyone and locked down. That was when she was being lauded. Her actions have changed - she’s now following ideological priorities not health properties. Therefore it’s perfectly fair to change our opinion of her. As an aside, I’m not a people worshipper anyways, idealizing people is not a good thing, all humans are fallible. Worshipping someone is setting yourself up for disappointment. Or never meet your heroes.
Lol
Hmm jump the gun ey!!!! Keep jumping awaaaaaay.