Really? I see a few of them for sure and I think they just have gambling addictions. Most of them don't look like business professionals so I assume they're just rich kids with money from their parents. But most of the under 25s are nits.
Depends on your area - in high cost of living regions like the bay area (where I am) there’s a nontrivial chunk of young players who have tech jobs that pay well into the 6 figures per year. So they’re conceivably properly rolled based on that job, even without outside help.
As a well seasons poker player, I'll give everyone respect until they, give me a reason not to. Lots of young guys play just as badly as the old guys. But normally I will be a bit more careful around a well-groomed younger player.
I guess I'm technically a rec but only because I have a very solid income from other sources (I don't work full time anymore though so I play poker a ton). I think your read on younger players being better is generally accurate.
I consider people who have passive income streams/investments and play poker full time to be pros, smarter than the typical pro too because honestly that’s the dream. I’ve been having a great year playing 2/5, got comfortable, and then made a total of $120 from July 1st to August 31st when all was said and done. It is extremely stressful and I don’t even have a ton of bills. I feel like some sort of passive income is necessary to keep your sanity and not burn out.
This is decent insight. I'm in my 40s I play about 40 hours a week but I also work 40 hours. It's essential.to.have a way to get passive income. Some guys are good enough to coach,or.sell.videos... I am not so I have to keep my job, I'm lucky however that I have a stable job where I can literally play while I work if I want to. The game is much tougher than it used to be
( i infact made over $300k playing HUSNG exclusively 2003-2008,.I too can be in really bumble) them took a long break and came back to getting fucking owned, and realized exact this to need to have suppliments for the months when you go -40 buyins, this is how I can not pull what's left of my hair out when I run boat over boat for the chip lead etc etc.
.
I think passive income is mandatory if you're a tournament player. I could not deal with the long inevitable losing stretches that come with the territory in tournaments. I only play a couple of tournaments a year at most, and I sell almost all of my action for even relatively low buyins.
If you are good you will know in a short time whether your opponent is a fish/pro/weak reg. If they are getting thin value on showdowns, balanced etc you can assume they know what they are doing but most will be average at best.
Gotcha. I would avoid guys that are wearing headphones or carrying backpacks. The 25yo wearing $4000 IEMs with a backpack full of trail mix and AlphaBrain is probably not a weekend warrior.
This is another point of contention with my friend & I. When I table select, I avoid backpacks and he clowns me for giving people credit just because they're wearing a backpack. My counter is why would a casual gambler bring a backpack to the casino? You don't see backpacks at roulette and blackjack.
If I was to try to table select on the fly I'd rail a couple hands keeping an eye on the potentially strong players baseline tendencies. If someone is methodical with how and when they check their cards, how he handles and stacks his chips, where his attention is focused in and out of a hand. If someone is loudly explaining their "gto strategy" at the table they probably suck (fuck you Tom)
I cant decide if I agree with your friend or not. I play profitable (cough cough sample size?) 2/5, am 30, make enough money that I can risk being unprofitable.
I think my opinion is location-dependent. In Vegas a much higher percentage of young dudes playing 2/5 are horrible at poker. Anywhere else I tend to agree that anybody younger than me will be one of the best players at the table and a possible pro until proven otherwise.
At the age of 23, I had about ~4 friends who would go to the casino at least once every month or two, and would play 2/5 when they play. They were reasonably good rec players but definitely losing long term.
These days I guess I’d be considered a rec player.
Local poker room has been shut for 18 months so can only play on interstate trips, but when I do I’ll play the biggest game available (usually 5/10 or 10/20) - but to be fair I was a pro throughout uni, and semi-pro (2-3 nights/week + all holidays) after graduation.
I think in general anyone you see at a 2/5+ under 30 is either a) pretty good or b) has a lot of money compared to peers. This is probably exacerbated if under 25.
Usually within a couple orbits/hands you’ll figure it out and can adjust accordingly
I would have to disagree STRONGLY. Most are just gamblers that chance the rent money on the table beacuse once they took $500 and made $5k.
Not many people playing 2/5 play poker exclusively for a living. I'm sure there are some but not many
Up until I was 25 I was a pro and used to play 5/10 regularly and bigger when the games ran and were good. I did very well, but had a gut check on life and went back to school. Now im right at your cutoff age and working in finance and paid very well. I play poker 3-4 times a year because I don’t have enough time. But when I do play I play 2/5. The money from whatever stakes doesn’t really matter to me, but winning feels so much better than losing that I’d rather stomp 2/5 than play with my antiquated skill set at 5/10.
Yes. I work a decent job and accumulated such a bankroll in live poker I play $5/10 up to $25/50 (deep Texas games + uncapped).
It's definitely possible to do both career + recreational poker at the same time. AMA.
[удалено]
Pretty we clashed at 40/80 Sup meng
I’ve been playing deep 1/3 2/5 and I’m 25 i have a good job and br built up. Just play for fun and as my main hobby besides smoking briskets.
Same here, but I smoke joints.
I do that too but less often then I smoke my meats
Most players under 25 who play 2/5 that i have seen are recklessly aggressive and do not understand ranges.
Really? I see a few of them for sure and I think they just have gambling addictions. Most of them don't look like business professionals so I assume they're just rich kids with money from their parents. But most of the under 25s are nits.
Depends on your area - in high cost of living regions like the bay area (where I am) there’s a nontrivial chunk of young players who have tech jobs that pay well into the 6 figures per year. So they’re conceivably properly rolled based on that job, even without outside help.
As a well seasons poker player, I'll give everyone respect until they, give me a reason not to. Lots of young guys play just as badly as the old guys. But normally I will be a bit more careful around a well-groomed younger player.
I guess I'm technically a rec but only because I have a very solid income from other sources (I don't work full time anymore though so I play poker a ton). I think your read on younger players being better is generally accurate.
I consider people who have passive income streams/investments and play poker full time to be pros, smarter than the typical pro too because honestly that’s the dream. I’ve been having a great year playing 2/5, got comfortable, and then made a total of $120 from July 1st to August 31st when all was said and done. It is extremely stressful and I don’t even have a ton of bills. I feel like some sort of passive income is necessary to keep your sanity and not burn out.
This is decent insight. I'm in my 40s I play about 40 hours a week but I also work 40 hours. It's essential.to.have a way to get passive income. Some guys are good enough to coach,or.sell.videos... I am not so I have to keep my job, I'm lucky however that I have a stable job where I can literally play while I work if I want to. The game is much tougher than it used to be ( i infact made over $300k playing HUSNG exclusively 2003-2008,.I too can be in really bumble) them took a long break and came back to getting fucking owned, and realized exact this to need to have suppliments for the months when you go -40 buyins, this is how I can not pull what's left of my hair out when I run boat over boat for the chip lead etc etc. .
I think passive income is mandatory if you're a tournament player. I could not deal with the long inevitable losing stretches that come with the territory in tournaments. I only play a couple of tournaments a year at most, and I sell almost all of my action for even relatively low buyins.
If you are good you will know in a short time whether your opponent is a fish/pro/weak reg. If they are getting thin value on showdowns, balanced etc you can assume they know what they are doing but most will be average at best.
I’m talking about profiling when it comes to table selection, once I see them play I can usually figure it out.
Gotcha. I would avoid guys that are wearing headphones or carrying backpacks. The 25yo wearing $4000 IEMs with a backpack full of trail mix and AlphaBrain is probably not a weekend warrior.
This is another point of contention with my friend & I. When I table select, I avoid backpacks and he clowns me for giving people credit just because they're wearing a backpack. My counter is why would a casual gambler bring a backpack to the casino? You don't see backpacks at roulette and blackjack.
If I was to try to table select on the fly I'd rail a couple hands keeping an eye on the potentially strong players baseline tendencies. If someone is methodical with how and when they check their cards, how he handles and stacks his chips, where his attention is focused in and out of a hand. If someone is loudly explaining their "gto strategy" at the table they probably suck (fuck you Tom)
I cant decide if I agree with your friend or not. I play profitable (cough cough sample size?) 2/5, am 30, make enough money that I can risk being unprofitable. I think my opinion is location-dependent. In Vegas a much higher percentage of young dudes playing 2/5 are horrible at poker. Anywhere else I tend to agree that anybody younger than me will be one of the best players at the table and a possible pro until proven otherwise.
At the age of 23, I had about ~4 friends who would go to the casino at least once every month or two, and would play 2/5 when they play. They were reasonably good rec players but definitely losing long term. These days I guess I’d be considered a rec player. Local poker room has been shut for 18 months so can only play on interstate trips, but when I do I’ll play the biggest game available (usually 5/10 or 10/20) - but to be fair I was a pro throughout uni, and semi-pro (2-3 nights/week + all holidays) after graduation. I think in general anyone you see at a 2/5+ under 30 is either a) pretty good or b) has a lot of money compared to peers. This is probably exacerbated if under 25. Usually within a couple orbits/hands you’ll figure it out and can adjust accordingly
See your friends are the kind of players I'm curious about. If they're young and don't play poker regularly, why wouldn't they just play 1/2 or 1/3?
I would have to disagree STRONGLY. Most are just gamblers that chance the rent money on the table beacuse once they took $500 and made $5k. Not many people playing 2/5 play poker exclusively for a living. I'm sure there are some but not many
Up until I was 25 I was a pro and used to play 5/10 regularly and bigger when the games ran and were good. I did very well, but had a gut check on life and went back to school. Now im right at your cutoff age and working in finance and paid very well. I play poker 3-4 times a year because I don’t have enough time. But when I do play I play 2/5. The money from whatever stakes doesn’t really matter to me, but winning feels so much better than losing that I’d rather stomp 2/5 than play with my antiquated skill set at 5/10.
Yes. I work a decent job and accumulated such a bankroll in live poker I play $5/10 up to $25/50 (deep Texas games + uncapped). It's definitely possible to do both career + recreational poker at the same time. AMA.